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	<title>Comments on: Law School: My Grades Can&#8217;t Tell You Who I Am</title>
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		<title>By: Forced Curves and Dead Cats &#171; Ccollado&#039;s Blog</title>
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		<title>By: Ruth Carter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruth Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 03:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would be so angry if my school told me my GPA or rank.  My thought is if someone wants to know my rank, I&#039;m sure the school will be happy to provide it.

When it comes to firms that have arbitrary cut-offs, I assume they do it to cut down on the number of applicants.  Most places that I&#039;ve seen doing this are large firms which tend not to be a places where I am best suited. However if there was an awesome job that had this arbitrary cut off, I&#039;d call them up and explain my situation or just apply with an explanation that I don&#039;t know my rank.  The worst thing they could do is not extend me an interview.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be so angry if my school told me my GPA or rank.  My thought is if someone wants to know my rank, I&#8217;m sure the school will be happy to provide it.</p>
<p>When it comes to firms that have arbitrary cut-offs, I assume they do it to cut down on the number of applicants.  Most places that I&#8217;ve seen doing this are large firms which tend not to be a places where I am best suited. However if there was an awesome job that had this arbitrary cut off, I&#8217;d call them up and explain my situation or just apply with an explanation that I don&#8217;t know my rank.  The worst thing they could do is not extend me an interview.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 03:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love it! Not looking at grades is such a great idea. I don&#039;t have my GPA or class rank on my resume either.  My law school send out an email that gives you your class rank...whether you&#039;re interested or not. It&#039;s truly awful. 

I appreciate that some firms post there arbitrary cut off percentages...it tells me that they aren&#039;t the kind of place I want to work for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love it! Not looking at grades is such a great idea. I don&#8217;t have my GPA or class rank on my resume either.  My law school send out an email that gives you your class rank&#8230;whether you&#8217;re interested or not. It&#8217;s truly awful. </p>
<p>I appreciate that some firms post there arbitrary cut off percentages&#8230;it tells me that they aren&#8217;t the kind of place I want to work for.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruth Carter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruth Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 03:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a conversation with my school&#039;s career services office today to discuss how I&#039;m going to deal potential employers who ask about my grades and applying for clerkships.  For the clerkship application, it asked for my rank and I had to mark &quot;I am not ranked&quot; since I don&#039;t know what my rank is.  We discussed ways to inform judges who want clerks about my view on grades and what skills I have to offer them (which is what really matters anyway).

I wish the law school environment was more accepting of students who don&#039;t want to work for a big firm and aren&#039;t into that hyper competitiveness to see who can perform .000001% better than everyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a conversation with my school&#8217;s career services office today to discuss how I&#8217;m going to deal potential employers who ask about my grades and applying for clerkships.  For the clerkship application, it asked for my rank and I had to mark &#8220;I am not ranked&#8221; since I don&#8217;t know what my rank is.  We discussed ways to inform judges who want clerks about my view on grades and what skills I have to offer them (which is what really matters anyway).</p>
<p>I wish the law school environment was more accepting of students who don&#8217;t want to work for a big firm and aren&#8217;t into that hyper competitiveness to see who can perform .000001% better than everyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: A.J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>A.J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 03:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;re right. It is just a theory, but again, it would benefit BigLaw only as well. For the rest of us, it doesn&#039;t matter. And it does seem fundamentally unfair to be doing A-quality work and yet stressing about whether you&#039;ll even make the curve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re right. It is just a theory, but again, it would benefit BigLaw only as well. For the rest of us, it doesn&#8217;t matter. And it does seem fundamentally unfair to be doing A-quality work and yet stressing about whether you&#8217;ll even make the curve.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruth Carter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruth Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 02:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I absolutely agree that the curve can foster competition, but when you&#039;re dealing with a lot of really smart people, the difference between the top of the class and the middle of the pack is often negligible.  I think everyone who does A quality work should get an A in the class.

Good luck with starting law school!  I love the color coded schedule on your blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absolutely agree that the curve can foster competition, but when you&#8217;re dealing with a lot of really smart people, the difference between the top of the class and the middle of the pack is often negligible.  I think everyone who does A quality work should get an A in the class.</p>
<p>Good luck with starting law school!  I love the color coded schedule on your blog.</p>
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		<title>By: A.J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>A.J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 15:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a couple of theories about the grading system. You addressed one of them, which is the curve is mainly for the benefit of BigLaw firms. If graduating classes were front-loaded with straight-A students, it makes it that much harder to find the &quot;cream of the crop&quot; as it were.

My other theory is that the curve fosters competition. For those who care about grades, especially at top tier schools (think future BigLaw careerists), the curve creates an intensely competitive environment where everyone knows only a handful of students will get an A. I suppose you could say it helps the cream rise to the top.

Personally, I have to keep a 3.0 GPA to keep my scholarship, which is important to me. So I do have some stress about grades with the pressure to keep my scholarship. So do I care about grades? Yes and no.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a couple of theories about the grading system. You addressed one of them, which is the curve is mainly for the benefit of BigLaw firms. If graduating classes were front-loaded with straight-A students, it makes it that much harder to find the &#8220;cream of the crop&#8221; as it were.</p>
<p>My other theory is that the curve fosters competition. For those who care about grades, especially at top tier schools (think future BigLaw careerists), the curve creates an intensely competitive environment where everyone knows only a handful of students will get an A. I suppose you could say it helps the cream rise to the top.</p>
<p>Personally, I have to keep a 3.0 GPA to keep my scholarship, which is important to me. So I do have some stress about grades with the pressure to keep my scholarship. So do I care about grades? Yes and no.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruthie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruthie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 05:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe you do.  You won&#039;t know unless you try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe you do.  You won&#8217;t know unless you try.</p>
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		<title>By: Addy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Addy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 02:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I had the balls to avoid looking at my grades.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I had the balls to avoid looking at my grades.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruth Carter</title>
		<link>http://www.undeniableruth.com/2010/06/22/law-school-my-grades-cant-tell-you-who-i-am/comment-page-1/#comment-377</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruth Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 13:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just learned about The Vault last week.  I was surprised that that I had not previously heard about this wonderful resource.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just learned about The Vault last week.  I was surprised that that I had not previously heard about this wonderful resource.</p>
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